This is the season finale of the Chris and Juan Podcast, the last time in a long time when you’ll hear in the same room together. I say my good-bye to Miami and to the friends i’ve gathered.
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We discuss what our new year is looking like, what’s inspiring us in the work we have coming and the inevitable changes that are ahead.
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We geek out about cartoons, plain and simple.
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We take it back to what started it all, a preview of fall TV. The good, the bad and the horrible. Also, towards the end, i geek the fuck over some news.
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The Journey of Gilgamesh Told/played by me, and subsequent plague afterwards. My ass aches just remembering this thing….
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Well we don’t just start there, we do talk about Snoop Lion for a few minutes and even drop some Easy-E in there too.
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We talk about the Dark Knight Rises, no spoilers, Aurora, CO and gun control. But, very early in the conversation my mic stops working, so I sound like I’m very far away from Juan. It’s a good conversation and that’s why I’m putting it up.
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So we’re suddenly surprised that American Comics are corporate driven piles of shit.
There is this big out cry right now for people to buy Creator Owned work, started by (originally, I guess) a blog post from Steve Niles, a pretty damn awesome video from The Goon’s Eric Powell (it’s no longer online), and the poor sales of creator-owned comics.
I really don’t give a shit, and yet I should as a creator, and as business man… I’m just too busy making comics.
It’s hard to look over my shoulder at everything and everyone right now, with all that is going on in comics now between formats, distribution, and fads. The fact to be mad about this, has it’s good reasons overall, but is rather moot. To talk about raising the bar on comics is one thing (and we are, Look at Becky Cloonan, Farel Darlymple, Jason Latour, and Brandon Graham to show it’s being done) but the fact that it’s about Creator Owned work and why it’s not more COMMERCIALLY SUCCESSFUL, even bigger than MARVEL and DC?
That’s a wee bit retarded.
And here’s why:
You have to contend with the market. Now the market, all in all, are Geeky Sweaty Assholes, even now. Sure the whole Geek Chic is coming along, and yes, their are more Vagina’s in the comic shop, but overall it’s the same shit as always, go to a con and tell me otherwise. That’s the market place. Don’t deny it, and most of them, want heat vision, big tits, and capes. They do.
AND THAT’S WHAT HAS TO CHANGE.
The good news; it is changing. As more and more independent creators make more and show more and in the end, SELL MORE, we are getting there. But a lot of fucking nerds need to get laid or die off for that to happen. A lot of folks need to expand their mind. And lot of whiny fuckhead creators need to evangelize and do as much possible to get people into the shit they think is so great.
It is just that no one wants to really do it, or bother themselves too much, really. They rather sit and whine than make comics or do their thing.
AS FOR THE BIG TWO:
Who gives a fuck? Torrent their latest big event “saga” of shit, and spend some cash on the indies. FUCK ALL. Last thing I read that was half way thorough was Blackest Night and Civil War. After that, it’s been shit except for some diamonds.
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While huffing some paint one day….
One thing I know is this: the comics industry at it’s best, is a Republic. Between that and the worst, it has been everything else, from Dogmatic Fascism to Mob-ruled Democracy.
You know what I mean.
I don’t know exactly when the term Fanboy was coined fer sure, but to me it was always been the iconic DC Comics Lobo #1 Cover, and it stuck. Now in so many ways and in so many forms, be it Comics, Games, Movies, or what-have-you, Fanboy is the term for those really eager masses , that sway and curl in a comic-con crowd for the next event/thing/giveaway/crossover/whatever like a Black Smoke Monster. It’s been a term of endearment, to a really ugly and close-bearing Insult at the same time.
I personally don’t care.
Those few who create and make the various genres that run this, feed this and are fed by this, run the gamut of alignments. Some take full advantage of the stupidity of Fanboy-ism and others help cultivate it. Some despise the fandom that loves them, and some are like Saints, blessing the wretched and raped, as they get whipped by them.
Again not caring too much.
But those out there who really love the work, follow it, and want to make the best of it, be it by creator or for creators, those, yes those are the ones who supersede it all, who really up the challenge.
Yellow Hat Guy, you are no Fanboy, you are a FAN-MAN
Even though you could have gone a ugly route, and just gone up to Liefeld and said “YOU SUCK” you didn’t no. No you actually came to stand toe to toe with the guy, like a person, and probably said to him what EVERYONE ELSE WHO WAS AROUND FOR HEROES REBORN had said, and you wanted an apology for the crappiness of it. Applause. Heck you even wanted to help him create better comics! I mean how self-less is that?
Yellow Hat Guy is our Rosa Parks…… ok, no, not at all.
Sure, you may say to yourself, “What does Liefeld have to apologize for? He’s an artist and didn’t it sell like a bajillion copies?”
If we ever get farther than just the plain bullshit consumerism of the comics world and really turn it into the art, we need more Yellow Hat Guys. We need fans to not only adore you creators, we need them to critique on occasion, and help you make a better book and hence make a better fan.
We can only hope to have that same thing here at Creature Entertainment, FANMEN ( and WOMEN) to give us that Honey Suckled Praise, and that Hot-coal in the culo Critique.
+ We had a real productive meeting Monday on some of the things we have to check list off, and of course, the site is one of them, so expect to see some of changes around here as we go.
+Julio is still editing “The Gun” while we all go blind looking at the sky trying to some rain at ngiht to shoot in. Also, we think Julio is getting a little weird editing all the time, mumbling about his “precious” here and there and holding the DV tapes like they were gold.
+The rest of us are working on our own proejcts and trying to set up the content here in the site. Stay tuned since we’ll be announcing new Webcomics and other Projects soon.
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“People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.”-Chuck Palahniuk
Allow me a moment to be a bit of a dramatic schmuck,yes?
Every other day, I peruse through Deviantart , posting and talking to other artists on there.As much as the code and overall layout has the sense of design of a Ransom Note, it does have an extensive community involved. Of course being that extensive, it spans all the genres you could fathom, but also spans the scale of shit to brilliance with an amazing ability too.
The Emo-like whining and pining does tend to stay within the limp-wristed, tweener, douchbags there, but amazingly enough you will find many a fucking lumpfuck adult pining away: “Another week and more to do, oh the suffering that bequeaths the mind when making AAAAH-RT!”
I don’t know if it was the Romantic Period or the Stories of Van Gogh, or just the gross exaggeration of Hollywood’s Infantile imagination, but somewhere along the line we were introduced into a very poor vision of what an artist is: The Starving Artist.
The Starving Artist, the poor struggling soul out to make right with his imagination, heart and soul some type of beauty that the world, oh the world in it’s spitefulness, does not comprehend or worship! Oh Lo, it is so Sad! Boo-hoo! They should appreciate him/her for there soul is the essence of the…
Somewhere at sometime, we were told that this was good thing, like this was some kind of badge of honor, some type of backwards ass thinking to poser lifestyle that is still consumed to this day was good, was RIGHT. The worst part? People lap this up! The eat it, swallow it, and lick their fingers in the uttermost backwash shit of an ideal.
After you wipe your screen from all this bile I’m spewing, let me be clear that I’m not making this out to be easy. Being an Artist is just an emotional hazard, and can be a crippling line of work, at least mentally. I know, I’m doing it.
I just don’t wallow in it.
When we give ourselves over to such self-imaging and pity, we take the power away from what we have, and what we are: CREATORS. Makers of things. Universe Builders, Thinkers and Ponderers of the Uncreated. You/Me/We are the FUNK in this Punch and the simple fact that we can make something out of nothing. Be it with our bodies or instrument or a piece of paper. That is not celebrated enough, you do not celebrate that enough, and neither do I.
Because we look for the Audience and approval. We have to, we are the protoplasmic foot moving forward for the whole cell, society. We want to do these things and have applause, have limelight have something but really..
You have to pursue this for yourself first, because you need the first to applause, the first to stand up, the first to make it. To put it simply:
“The arts are a very human way of making life more bearable. Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow.” -Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
:::End Dramatic Pandering::::
+The crew went out last Friday and filmed a couple of the last scenes of “The Gun”. Other than that, we just need one day of rain and The Gun can go fully into Post-Production.
+Inks on Tommy are coming along, as are pencils. This week we ramp up production a bit to get more of a footing on it.
+If you read on Monday we showed a preview of Jose Varese’s cover for “The Gun” which was just badass.
+Zombie Years also updates today so come see some Smoke, Fire and Undead!
Catch us on the Twitter too.
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Like me, if you weren’t at the San Diego Comic-Con, you were probably bombarded, albeit voluntarily, with various Tweets, Feeds, Blogs, and just flailing of limbs at what was coming in from the Con floor.
G4 had some good coverage, not anythingspecial I wasn’t already getting off tweets and such, but in a TV show setting, it was cool to see it on that screen. Both Kevin Pereira and Olive Munn’s Tweets were like war coverage in some ravaged country as they try to get you what was happening on the Ground. I believe they were last seen by the bathrooms, and the kidnappers demands haven’t been given.
News of Olivia Munn being War machine was pretty bad ass too, and a good surprise. I think she could pull it off, I just wonder how?
I really wasn’t into the swag. Believe me, when I was there back in 2007, it all seemed real cool, but after awhile the blatant tagging and bagging marketing gets to you. I don’t want to shit on collectors and such, I can understand the hobby being an ex-McFarlane toy collector, but I just can’t stand that crazy desperation that come with stepping on new-borns to get a USB stick with some label on it. I mean look at some of the most expensive crap they have and you tell me….
Some “BIG NEWS ANNOUNCEMENTS” were just….crappy.
The News of Marvel Anime, like Wolverine and Iron Man were sort of mixed; Iron Man fit the anime perfectly and was dynamic and “Mecha” cool, but Wolverine was just…posturing shit. The character design was fine, a little quirky for the sake of quirky sort of deal, but him fighting some reject of Deathnote? Ghostdogs? Made no sense. Why not have him as patch and show him in an Asian Pacific setting? That would be excellent, not the visual vomit I saw.
Marvel doing Miracle Man news…..who gives a shit? The comics were good, but really i don’t’ find it that out of this world, until I see something worthwhile done with it, until then I’ll give it a nice nudge and “oh…uh-huh cool” and that’s it. With X-men; the Necronosha storyline could be awesome or……just dull. We’ll have to see.
DC is riding this Blackest night thing FOUR-EVA! Yes Dead superheroes coming back, and death and big event, and BLAH-TITY_BLAH-TITY BLAH! When it was just a Green Lantern event in the early stages it really made stay on with the book, literally. I was reading it and ready to drop it when all of a sudden the emergence of the Sinestro Corp , and the GL Corp book came out, and I was suddenly back in, while the main stay book was re-hashing the old Hal Jordan origin AGAIN. To me it saved the title, but now they want to make it this huge ridiculous event across all the books, and ….yawn. Whatever. If it proves to have some weight, I may read in trade. I’m still thinking of getting Final Crisis in trade.What I like of DC’s announcements? Having seen some of the work for it, is that Over-sized newsprint book they are doing at DC with various writers and artist, all top named. That looks bad-ass, and maybe a very worthwhile venture, even at 3.99 price tag.
I also think it’s sad that they are still trying to re-invent Wonder-Woman with this new angle. You can tell DC got shook up when Megan Fox put her big hammer toed foot in Wonder Woman’s ass, calling her lame. The Response? Making her suck more, I think.
Some Article coverages I dug, was this one on IO9 with J. Michael Straczynski and tactics for writing and such. It was informative and packs lots of advice and things to keep in mind if you are going to pursue it.
The Digital Comics Panel held a real interest to me, and was covered pretty well covered here. As much as I’m for it, the hold on all that is tedious at best. Until they start burning the bytes, and people start using and to a certain ABUSING their systems we won’t know who will win…. other than the fans.
One of the cooler stories developing at the con was this, which was very sweet, but I wonder how it turned out?
Quentin Tarantino’s Comic-Con panel seemed pretty cool, but I love his advice, which was as instructional as it should be “Make a KICK-ASS FUCKING MOVIE” ( which seems like a consensus of all the movie-makers involved)
My eyes are bleeding from watching the twitter feeds so I can’t say too much more. I dug the coverage and news about projects and such, but all in all, Twitter was more informative than the con, and really I think the whole hub-bub is sort of losing it’s charm. The again, I come form the thinking that if you love something enough, you’ll hate it just a little too, whenever anybody tries to fuck with it.
Maybe next year when I attend I’ll have a different take…… or pile driving pre-teens for a Marvel Poster, who knows…
(NOTE: I found that between Bleeding Cool, IO9, and Robot 6, I was getting all the coverage you needed for the con. I wonder though, if there are more stories coming out of Artist Alley and the independent works.)